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	<title>Comments on: MOO gets agile&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Stanford</title>
		<link>http://www.moo.com/blog/2009/07/21/moo-gets-agile/comment-page-1/#comment-26236</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Stanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I would love to order these. You&#039;ve kindly added them as a ready made pack but they don&#039;t include the beautiful design on the back. Any chance that design can be made available? (Of course, I could source and upload a design myself, but I&#039;m un-resourceful like that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I would love to order these. You&#8217;ve kindly added them as a ready made pack but they don&#8217;t include the beautiful design on the back. Any chance that design can be made available? (Of course, I could source and upload a design myself, but I&#8217;m un-resourceful like that.)</p>
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		<title>By: June Lim</title>
		<link>http://www.moo.com/blog/2009/07/21/moo-gets-agile/comment-page-1/#comment-6321</link>
		<dc:creator>June Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are so cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are so cool!</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
		<link>http://www.moo.com/blog/2009/07/21/moo-gets-agile/comment-page-1/#comment-6308</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aww, Christy - what a lovely compliment! Thank you :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww, Christy &#8211; what a lovely compliment! Thank you :)</p>
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		<title>By: Christy DeKoning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy DeKoning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(...and I&#039;ll use other words besides &quot;cool&quot; too)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(&#8230;and I&#8217;ll use other words besides &#8220;cool&#8221; too)</p>
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		<title>By: Christy DeKoning</title>
		<link>http://www.moo.com/blog/2009/07/21/moo-gets-agile/comment-page-1/#comment-6306</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy DeKoning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I just have to say that these are really cool and I loved lurking and listening in on this cool idea. Working for myself (and by myself) negates the need for Planning Poker. But I tell you, if I start sitting my other selves down for some serious planning in my brain-cell-deficient future, I&#039;ll order some of these cool cards to do it right and proper!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I just have to say that these are really cool and I loved lurking and listening in on this cool idea. Working for myself (and by myself) negates the need for Planning Poker. But I tell you, if I start sitting my other selves down for some serious planning in my brain-cell-deficient future, I&#8217;ll order some of these cool cards to do it right and proper!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hammond</title>
		<link>http://www.moo.com/blog/2009/07/21/moo-gets-agile/comment-page-1/#comment-6297</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Hammond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a comment from a fellow techie on a sentence in your post.

You say &quot;The ideal aim of the game is for all of us to know each other and our codebase so well that we all agree first time around when we turn over the cards.&quot;

I&#039;d disagree with that.  I would propose that if you are agreeing first time with too much regularity, then it is likely that you are missing out on one of the key values that collective estimation gives you - the ability to unearth assumptions, mis-assumptions, biased opinions etc.  The point of planning poker is to stimulate more discussion that you otherwise may not have had.

So, for me, the &quot;ideal aim of the game is to take as many rounds as necessary to ensure all reasonably forseeable considerations have been uncovered so that our estimate is as credible as possible&quot;.

Just my 2 pence...  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a comment from a fellow techie on a sentence in your post.</p>
<p>You say &#8220;The ideal aim of the game is for all of us to know each other and our codebase so well that we all agree first time around when we turn over the cards.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d disagree with that.  I would propose that if you are agreeing first time with too much regularity, then it is likely that you are missing out on one of the key values that collective estimation gives you &#8211; the ability to unearth assumptions, mis-assumptions, biased opinions etc.  The point of planning poker is to stimulate more discussion that you otherwise may not have had.</p>
<p>So, for me, the &#8220;ideal aim of the game is to take as many rounds as necessary to ensure all reasonably forseeable considerations have been uncovered so that our estimate is as credible as possible&#8221;.</p>
<p>Just my 2 pence&#8230;  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.moo.com/blog/2009/07/21/moo-gets-agile/comment-page-1/#comment-6296</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing Poker works really well. 

The only problems we seem to have (at Huddle) are:

a) cards getting lost, or people forgetting them and just coming along using their fingers as a substitute. Using fingers is awful (I&#039;ve done it) and defeats the point. All cards should be down on the table before everyone turns over so that no one is influenced in any way.

b) cards getting muddled and wasting time sorting them each planning session. 

Two small things, but annoying. Your own design could be a good idea. Maybe name them for example so you can identify offenders who lose their set! Some sort of plastic case per set would be a good waste of money, but potentially quite cool for us geeks. 

And then the golden rule if anyone forgets their plastic case, they have to go back upstairs to get it. The thought of having to go back up and down a set of stairs is probably a good enough deterrent to stop people forgetting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing Poker works really well. </p>
<p>The only problems we seem to have (at Huddle) are:</p>
<p>a) cards getting lost, or people forgetting them and just coming along using their fingers as a substitute. Using fingers is awful (I&#8217;ve done it) and defeats the point. All cards should be down on the table before everyone turns over so that no one is influenced in any way.</p>
<p>b) cards getting muddled and wasting time sorting them each planning session. </p>
<p>Two small things, but annoying. Your own design could be a good idea. Maybe name them for example so you can identify offenders who lose their set! Some sort of plastic case per set would be a good waste of money, but potentially quite cool for us geeks. </p>
<p>And then the golden rule if anyone forgets their plastic case, they have to go back upstairs to get it. The thought of having to go back up and down a set of stairs is probably a good enough deterrent to stop people forgetting.</p>
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		<title>By: Nopadon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nopadon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve got the mountain goat cards and also our own planning poker cards from MOO which are beautiful and unique.  MOO FTW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve got the mountain goat cards and also our own planning poker cards from MOO which are beautiful and unique.  MOO FTW!</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
		<link>http://www.moo.com/blog/2009/07/21/moo-gets-agile/comment-page-1/#comment-6290</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giora - you could indeed! Or you could have some fun and make your own. That choice right there, is the beauty of the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giora &#8211; you could indeed! Or you could have some fun and make your own. That choice right there, is the beauty of the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Giora Morein</title>
		<link>http://www.moo.com/blog/2009/07/21/moo-gets-agile/comment-page-1/#comment-6289</link>
		<dc:creator>Giora Morein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or you could go to http://store.mountaingoatsoftware.comand buy a professionally designed deck of cards for $2.50 for a set of 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or you could go to <a href="http://store.mountaingoatsoftware.comand" rel="nofollow">http://store.mountaingoatsoftware.comand</a> buy a professionally designed deck of cards for $2.50 for a set of 4.</p>
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